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5/3/2019 at 8:10:53 AM GMT
Posts: 3
Security Gate - maintenance and access
We are an organized tract in California. We have had a gate for years and almost no
issues but recently issues have arisen due to cabin ownership changes and from the utility
company and forest service. What is the prevalence of security gates? We are being told by our
district office that since we have gates blocking vehicular traffic other than for cabin owners, the
cabin owners assume responsibility for the roads within our tract.


5/4/2019 at 6:31:46 PM GMT
Posts: 10
Fascinating. We’re behind a gate (with a fake lock). We’ve been told ours is not considered a road-it’s considered an access route and that it can’t be improved beyond clearance for a high clearance 4WD. We are literally no allowed to maintain it.


5/4/2019 at 6:33:11 PM GMT
Posts: 10
Fascinating. We’re behind a gate (with a fake lock). We’ve been told ours is not considered a road-it’s considered an access route and that it can’t be improved beyond clearance for a high clearance 4WD. We are literally no allowed to maintain it.


5/6/2019 at 12:46:00 AM GMT
Posts: 1
We are also in California, and yes we also have a locked gate with access locks for fire, USFS, Sheriff etc. The roads are our responsibility, at least presently. Road maintenance is very expensive, about $100 a linear foot. That is for road base mixed with portland cement, watered and compacted. Given the rain we had this year, the contractor was not sure the project would last more than a few years. Re-grading and spreading gravel was another option. We applied for, and were granted a permit to improve the roads, but ours is a small tract and raising $10-15,000 seems to be a big challenge. I'm ready to take some picks, shovels and bags of gravel to improve some spots.

The USFS simply doesn't have the funds to maintain the roads.

That said, they absolutely need access to some areas behind the gate and were talking about re-grading some parts of the washed out road.


5/17/2019 at 7:29:16 PM GMT
Posts: 8
My cabin is in WY and there is a gate to prevent access during winter months. Becuase this road is used for cabins and public camp grounds, the FS is responsible for maintaining the road EXCEPT for the portion that is used solely for cabin access. This portion is apparently our responsibility but requires a permit from the FS prior to any road improvements.


5/30/2019 at 1:37:20 AM GMT
Posts: 4
My cabin is in Minnesota. The Forest Service maintains the road for the non-winter months. That means grading once a year. Or, in maybe 1 out of 3 years if there is a summer washout they'll hire a grader. I think they use the county roads department since ours is a pretty isolated tract. Our one mile long road is NOT plowed in the winter by the USFS, since it is a 'seasonal' road. (We don't have any mountains here, so I am not sure what seasonal means. After all, summer is a 'season' too.) We collect fees from everyone, including a half dozen private cabins at the far end of this dead-end road, to plow it for a few of us who go up occasionally in the winter. Also, it allows a local security patrol to more easily monitor the cabins. The Forest Service has never questioned our winter plowing, and I guess we've never asked if they would pay for it! There has never been a gate on the road, that's not an issue.


7/16/2019 at 9:32:03 PM GMT
Posts: 4
My cabin is in Oregon. We also have security gates and have been told that the roads are our responsibility for the same reason noted above. We have not had major issues with the roads but keep a gravel pile within the tract and ask cabin owners to fill pot holes as they occur. Our winters are relatively mild, with snow blocking access to all but high-clearance, 4-wheel drive vehicles, only a few times since I've owned my cabin. I find it hard enough to get the Forest Service to maintain the main access road (fill pot holes/paint lines), which serves our cabin tract, three Forest Service campgrounds, and another special-uses facility, never mind the roads within the tract.